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Shimano Deore XT vs. SRAM GX Eagle

By Bruce Lin

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Every time someone at The Pro’s Closet unveils their new bike, a crowd gathers. We’re all bike nuts here, so we love vicariously experiencing anyone's new bike day.

But then, as the bike gets pulled out of the box and the drivetrain is revealed, a division forms in the crowd. Half nod in approval. The other half start talking smack. This is tribalism. It stems from one of the greatest rivalries in cycling: Shimano vs. SRAM.

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Shimano Deore Xt mountain bike drivetrainsWatch out SRAMies, it's a gang of Deore XT riders. | Photo credit: Paris Gore

I bought a new mountain bike frame, and since I'm building it up myself, I need to choose between a Shimano or SRAM drivetrain. I’m not particularly loyal to one brand, so I took a poll of The Pro’s Closet mountain bikers to see what drivetrain they're running.

I discovered a pretty even split between Shimano and SRAM users. The most popular drivetrains are Shimano’s latest 12-speed Deore XT M8100 drivetrain, and SRAM’s 12-speed GX Eagle drivetrain.

TPC employee mountain bike drivetrains

Deore XT and GX Eagle are not only popular with TPC employees, but they’re also the two most ubiquitous drivetrains in our mountain bike inventory. If you're looking for a new or used mid-range mountain bike, there's a pretty good chance it will have one of these two drivetrains. 

The purpose of this piece won’t be to determine which group is “better.” Instead, it will explore some of the technical, quantitative, and qualitative differences, and why our riders choose one drivetrain or the other. Read on to see how Deore XT and GX Eagle compare.

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Contents

Component hierarchy

Shimano 

SRAM

Deore

SX

SLX

NX

Deore XT

GX

XTR

X01/XX1

Deore XT and GX Eagle occupy the upper-to-mid level of both Shimano and SRAM’s mountain bike ranges. They aren’t as expensive or blingy as the top-tier drivetrain offerings, but they perform nearly as well and are a great option for enthusiast riders and amateur racers who want a quality groupset.

The chart above is organized from entry-level to high-end. It’s pretty simple, but when speaking to mountain bikers at TPC, I discovered that many disagree on what drivetrains are considered equivalent between Shimano and SRAM. Some were surprised that XT and GX were even considered to be on the same level. (If you feel this way, let me know in the comments!)

SRAM GX eagle ridingPhoto credit: SRAM

Group hierarchies don’t line up perfectly across brands. In particular, SRAM’s X01 and XX1 drivetrains create an interesting dilemma. Technically, X01 lies beneath XX1. It costs a few hundred dollars less and weighs a tiny bit more. But X01 is still significantly more expensive than both GX and Deore XT. As explained in an earlier GX vs. XX1 comparison, the differences between SRAM’s top two drivetrains are minimal — colors, a few bits of carbon, and some foam in the crank arms. 

I find it easier to think of X01 and XX1 as two different versions of the same top-tier drivetrain, both competing with Shimano XTR. These are the drivetrains chosen by professional racers, with XX1 more often used in XC racing and X01 in enduro racing. GX is the next step down, similar to how Shimano’s Deore XT is the next step down from the more race-focused XTR group.

Price

MSRP (drivetrain only — shifters, derailleur, cassette, crank, chainring, and chain)
Shimano Deore XT: $623
SRAM GX Eagle: $545

As you can see, the Deore XT drivetrain retails for about 80 dollars more than the GX Eagle drivetrain. $80 is a pretty small difference for a full drivetrain. Of course, it’s possible to find drivetrains for below retail pricing if you search online. If you’re buying a complete bike, knowing the drivetrain's MSRP can give you a sense of how much value it adds (or detracts) from your bike.

One thing to note is that the GX retail price is for a GX drivetrain equipped with the standard aluminum GX crank. Beginning in 2020, a carbon GX crank option is available and will add $140 to the price of a GX drivetrain.

The above retail prices are noted as “drivetrain only” because Deore XT is also available as a complete groupset with brakes, wheels, and pedals. GX Eagle is only a drivetrain. SRAM has other component offerings for brakes and wheels that aren’t tied to any of its drivetrains by name.

Compared to any top-tier drivetrain, Deore XT and GX Eagle are relatively affordable. For a top-tier drivetrain expect to pay $1,300-1,500, with electronic drivetrains in the $2,000+ range. Drivetrains a step down from Deore XT and GX Eagle are more affordable at $410 for Shimano SLX and $375 for NX Eagle.

Weight

Shimano Deore XT: 1,833g
SRAM GX Eagle: 1,752g

Even if you aren’t a full-on weight weenie, you’re probably somewhat aware of your bike's weight. We weigh every component and bike we sell. Individually, Deore XT and GX Eagle components are all pretty close. On our scales, a complete GX drivetrain weighs around 80 grams less than a complete Deore XT drivetrain — a little under 3 ounces. In the grand scheme of things, that’s pretty negligible. But if you’re picky, 3 ounces could be the difference between a mountain bike that weighs over 30 pounds and a bike that’s under. There are people out there (like me) who think like that.

Notably, the new carbon GX crank adds $140, but saves an additional 80 grams over the standard aluminum GX crank, making a complete GX drivetrain with carbon crank 160 grams lighter than Deore XT.

Will this weight matter to you? That's a question you have to answer for yourself. Realistically, it won’t affect your performance, and you probably won’t be able to notice it while riding. Personally, I’m susceptible to obsessive gram-counting. If my bike is marginally lighter, it boosts my mental state and makes me feel faster. It’s silly, I know. For more information about the importance of bike weight, check out this article: Does Bike Weight Matter?

If you’re truly committed to shaving grams, you’re going to have to shell out the big bucks for XTR, XO1, or XX1. Exotic materials like carbon fiber and titanium mean these top-tier drivetrains come in around 1,500 grams, saving you around 250 grams, or about half a pound.

Deore XT and GX Eagle are 200-250 grams lighter than more entry-level drivetrains like SLX and NX Eagle, which both tip the scales at over 2,000 grams. 

1x vs. 2x options

There is one thing Shimano does that SRAM doesn’t — let you shift a front derailleur. SRAM abandoned the front derailleur long ago, and 1x drivetrains have since become the standard for modern mountain bikes.

But Shimano has remained faithful and still offers 2x mountain bike drivetrains. The current cable-actuated, side swing front derailleurs are actually amazing pieces of tech. The revised cable pull makes these newer front derailleurs smoother and more efficient than the clunky, chain dropping front derailleurs of the past.Shimano Deore XT Front derailleur

Photo credit: Shimano

Does this make Deore XT superior? Well, the mountain bike marketplace has spoken, and the vast majority of riders want a simple 1x system. Most new mountain bike frames are 1x specific and don’t even have a way to mount a front derailleur if you wanted one.

But if you’re old-school, or one of the few who want the smaller steps between gears that a 2x can offer, then Shimano is the only choice. The 2x option will add to the cost and weight of the Deore XT drivetrain.

Cassettes

In the last couple of years, an interesting little battle has waged between Shimano and SRAM over cassette teeth. When SRAM first released its 12-speed Eagle drivetrains in 2016, the 10-50t cassettes seemed comically massive. But four years later, they’ve become accepted and normal.

Shimano deore Xt and SRAM GX eagle cassettesThe Deore XT 10-51t cassette and SRAM GX Eagle 10-50t cassette. | Photo Credit: Shimano / SRAM

Shimano lagged behind for a time, and the widest cassette it offered was an 11-speed 11-46t Deore XT cassette. But in 2018, Shimano came out swinging with its new generation of 12-speed drivetrains. Its new Wide Range, 1x specific cassettes for XTR, Deore XT, and SLX offered a 10-51t range. One tooth more!

Not to be outdone, SRAM released a new cassette in 2020 with an even wider range: 10-52t. Will Shimano and SRAM continue to duke it out over the next few years, each releasing a new cassette one tooth more than the last? I sure hope so. 

How much difference does a single tooth make? Doing some basic math, there is about a 2% difference with each single tooth increase. On a 29er with a standard 32t chainring and 175mm cranks, the gear inches come out to 18.5, 18.2, and 17.8 (50-, 51-, and 52-tooth, respectively). Yes, it’s easier to climb steep grades with more cassette teeth, but those numbers are all pretty close. A good night’s sleep will probably make a bigger difference.

But, as I've said earlier, I’m neurotic enough to think 80 grams can make a difference, so I can probably convince myself that a granny gear that's 2% easier will be the difference between me cleaning a tough climb or getting off and walking.

SRAM GX Eagle drivetrainPhoto Credit: SRAM

One thing I will mention is after trying the new 10-52t SRAM cassette, the jump from the 42t to the big 52t cog is a bit more noticeable than the 42t to 50t jump on the older 10-50t cassette. It’s not bad, or clunky, but I do feel like I’m “hitting the eject button” when I shift into it. A necessary sacrifice for the ultimate granny gear and on hard rides with long and grueling climbs, I don't care. For those that do, the Shimano cassette uses a smaller and slightly smoother 45t to 51t jump for the last two cogs.

Also, because Deore XT still has a 2x option, there is a smaller, 2x compatible 10-45t cassette available called the “Rhythm Step” cassette. The 10-51t “Wide Range” cassette isn’t intended to be used with a 2x set-up because the derailleur pulley cage won’t be able to handle the chain length. Riders who don’t need a big granny gear and want tighter spacing between gears could also use the Rhythm Step cassette on a 1x set-up.

Ultimately, the cassette is a wear item. On a 1x drivetrain it will last through several chain and chainring replacements, but it will wear out eventually. If that time comes, A Deore XT cassette retails for $160 and a GX Eagle cassette for $215. That's a notable difference. 

This difference in price is largely due to construction. The Deore XT cassette uses a carrier for the large black cogs, and the remaining cogs are stacked individually on the freehub with spacers. The GX Eagle cassette is one piece, constructed of multiple cogs pinned together. It’s not as sophisticated or light as the hollow one-piece X01 or XX1 cassettes, but it provides the same easy install and removal. The GX Eagle cassette construction saves about 20-25 grams over the Deore XT cassette.

Cassette freehubs

SRAM introduced its XD Driver freehub body in 2012. Shimano followed suit when it released its Micro Spline freehub body for its new 12-speed drivetrains. The XD Driver and Micro Spline freehubs have a smaller diameter, which allows wide-range cassettes with a smaller 10 tooth cog to fit. GX Eagle cassettes use XD Driver and Deore XT (M8100) cassettes use Micro Spline.

Pay attention to this if you plan on getting new wheels for your bike. You’ll need a rear hub with a compatible freehub for your preferred cassette. Currently, wheels with SRAM XD drivers are more common than Micro Spline wheels, especially in the used market. Until recently, very few brands were allowed to produce and sell Shimano Micro Spline freehubs.

In my experience, both freehubs work perfectly fine. They’re just different so the two brands can keep everything in the family.

Chains and chainrings

Shimano Deore Xt chain and chainringPhoto credit: Sterling Lorence

With new 12-speed MTB groups like Deore XT M8100, Shimano introduced a new chain with “Hyperglide+ shift technology” to improve shifting and chain retention. Unfortunately, this new chain design means the massive box of 1x chainrings I’ve collected over the years is useless. Hyperglide+ chains require chainrings using a proprietary Shimano tooth shape. Brands like Race Face and Wolf Tooth also make compatible chainrings.

Though the SRAM techs may not condone it, I like that I can use nearly any normal narrow-wide chainring. These chainrings are common and easy to find nearly anywhere. I swap chainrings a lot, but I do like the unique tooth shape of the SRAM Eagle X-Sync 2 chainrings. 

Chains and chainrings are the main consumables you will need to replace regularly for these drivetrains. In terms of price and lifespan, Deore XT and GX Eagle chains and chainrings are pretty comparable. Shimano and SRAM branded chainrings retail for around $65. I find that XT chains generally run for $35-45 and GX Eagle chains for $25-40 depending on the seller. I put about 600-1,000 miles on a chainring and 1,000-1,500 miles on a chain before I change them. 

If you want a super-chain for your mid-level drivetrain, I always suggest the XX1 Eagle chain. I’ve had two last to 3,000 miles and through several chainrings. No matter what Eagle drivetrain I currently have, I always upgrade to the XX1 Eagle chain.

According to this great chain article by David Rome, the 12-speed XTR chain also has great longevity, but I’ve yet to test one. It may be a good upgrade option for a Deore XT drivetrain.

Rear derailleur

Shimano Deore Xt rear derailleurPhoto Credit: Shimano

Deore XT, and many other Shimano derailleurs, use Shadow Technology. This design reduces the profile of the derailleur to keep it tucked away under the chainstay. This reduces chain slap in rough riding conditions and keeps the derailleur more protected from rocks and other objects in the trail that might damage it. Shimano claims Shadow Technology provides a smoother and more silent ride.

Sram GX eagle rear derailleurPhoto credit: SRAM

SRAM GX Eagle derailleurs are similarly tucked, and use SRAM X-Horizon and X-Actuation, which maintain an equal chain gap from pulley to cogs through every gear of a wide-range cassette. A “straight parallelogram” design also limits horizontal movement. SRAM claims this eliminates ghost shifts, reduces shift force, and maintains consistent shifting over the whole cassette.

Both Shimano and SRAM use a clutch to maintain chain tension and prevent dropped chains when riding through rough terrain. The Shimano clutch can be turned on and off. It has to be turned off to move the derailleur when removing the rear wheel. There have been plenty of times when I’ve forgotten to switch it back on — I didn't realize my mistake until I heard my chain slapping!

The SRAM clutch is always active. GX Eagle derailleurs use a cage lock that locks the pulley cage in a down position for removing the rear wheel.

The rear derailleur is worth discussing because it’s essential to your drivetrain function. Despite features like Shadow Technology that decrease the derailleur's profile, it’s still the mountain bike component that’s most vulnerable in a crash. If you're unlucky enough to lay your bike down and need to replace a derailleur, the Deore XT rear derailleur retails for $115, and the GX Eagle for $125. Pretty close. 

Electronic shifting

SRAM recently unveiled a wireless electronic version of GX, GX Eagle AXS. It is more affordable than X01 or XX1 Eagle AXS, and it's currently the most affordable way to get an electronic 12-speed drivetrain on your mountain bike. Learn more in our GX AXS First Look article.  

Currently, Shimano hasn't released an electronic Di2 version of its 12-speed mountain bike drivetrains. If it does, XTR will likely be first, with Deore Xt following sometime later. Until then, SRAM rules this space. 

Popularity

The Pro’s Closet is the world leader in used bikes. Our employees love cycling, obsess over bikes and tech, and have access to a huge selection of products. They are all knowledgeable and opinionated so I polled riders in our shop to see which drivetrain they would choose if they had to pick between Shimano Deore XT M8100 and SRAM GX Eagle. We had over 50 respondents to this poll and many explained why they would pick one over the other.

The chart below shows the results.

Shimano Deore XT vs. SRAM GX Eagle TPC employee poll

Deore XT won out with our crew, earning two-thirds of the vote. Brand loyalty was a huge factor in this vote. Some riders explained they preferred Shimano because they have a reputation for refinement and are a 100-year-old Japanese company. Others prefer SRAM because they’re American and tend to have innovative ideas and products (like being first to market with a 1x MTB drivetrain and a 10-50t cassette).

Some riders are ex-roadies who have stuck with Shimano because they were the standard for road bike drivetrains. Others like SRAM because they were 1x early adopters who have now used SRAM for nearly a decade on their mountain bikes.

Only two respondents chose GX Eagle because of the slight weight advantage. Surprisingly, only one respondent mentioned the 10-51t Shimano cassette as a reason to choose Deore XT over a 10-50t SRAM option. No one mentioned the new 10-52t SRAM cassette. (Perhaps all the riders at TPC are so strong, they don’t care about the granny gear!) Even more surprising, only one respondent cared about price.

What I found really interesting was how voters on both sides had similar responses regarding feel. Many riders expressed a preference for the feel of one group or the other. Both Deore XT and GX Eagle voters used the words “buttery” or “crisp” to describe their preferred drivetrain while calling the other "unreliable" or “clunky.” Both Shimano and SRAM voters said their chosen drivetrain shifts smoother under power. Feel then, is truly in the eye of the beholder. 

Reliability was also a big concern for several respondents. Both sides provided a few horror stories about parts going wrong or failing. But the vast majority of respondents said they “never had a problem” with either drivetrain and their thoughts on reliability were mostly based on anecdotes from the Internet or other riders. As far as I can tell from our small sample size, in real life, these two drivetrains are equally reliable. 

In terms of aesthetics, four respondents said GX Eagle simply looks better. "I don't want that ugly two-tone cassette," said one GX voter. Unfortunately for Deore XT, no one praised its appearance. 

Other small details drove decision making. Some don't like the on/off switch for the clutch on Deore XT derailleurs. Like me, they forget to turn it on or it becomes loose over time. Some can't handle the SRAM trigger shifters that don't allow you to upshift with your index finger (Shimano Rapid Fire shifters allow you to upshift with a push of your thumb or by pulling with your index finger). Some riders explained that they prefer Shimano or SRAM brakes and chose the drivetrain that matched their preferred brake. A few riders chose GX because they already had an XD Driver wheelset. 

What’s the takeaway here? In our shop, the Deore XT supporters outnumber the GX Eagle supporters. The Deore XT and GX Eagle groups are both quality groups and personal preference and brand loyalty are the biggest deciders. Beyond price and weight, its the small details like a clutch lever, a color option, or even just a gut feeling that will sway most riders one way or the other. 

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Final thoughts

Yeti Shimano Deore Xt drivetrainA glimpse into my future bike build. | Photo credit: Sterling Lorence

So what am I going to choose for my new mountain bike? In the poll, I voted for Shimano Deore XT. Why? Because I’ve owned and ridden several bikes with GX Eagle. My current bike has GX Eagle. GX has been around longer than Deore XT M8100, so it’s been easier for me to obtain bikes with GX over the last few years. But now, it’s 2020 and I’m looking to mix things up. Shimano's new 12-speed offerings are really exciting because they’re newer.

I have nothing but good experiences with GX, and would happily ride it again. But I’m not a super brand-loyal person, and I want to play the field a bit more. Hopefully, I can discover if I truly prefer one or the other. 

Do you ride Deore XT or GX Eagle? Why do you think one is better? Or do you have another mid-level contender you prefer? Let us know in the comments!

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23 comments


  • Hello and thank you very much indeed for this extremely interesting article and comments. I have tried the same bike Trek bikes (procaliber and Fuel 9.8/9.9 version) with both setups and I have to admit that there is a massive difference when you want to climb on the last 2 biggest cogs. The transition on the SRAM is too big and feels like you are missing one speed whereas it is more ’’natural’’ and progressive on the XT. Moreover I find the noise and the clunkyness on the SRAM worrying and terrible even though it is not a technical problem. In addition which is a non starter for me, I have to say that I hate the shifters on the SRAM. SO all this keeps me in the camp of the XT gang I am afraid.

    Etienne Dodane on

  • I’ve always been a XT or XTR guy, “until” I got the AXS on my Trek Rail holy crap wow that’s the bomb.. then combine it with AXS dropper and super clean handlebar set up everything is nice and neat!
    Here’s the problem SRAM brakes are AWFUL!!
    Every new bike I buy (mostly higher end) when I order or grab my new bike “which is of course the best day ever” I order Shimano XT or XTR brakes immediately the SRAM brakes are sold before there ever installed I’ve had sooooo many issues with stuck pistons, brake fading, literally coming down a chairlift mountain and NO brakes sucks!!! And scary as @@… no thanks!
    So my comment is Love the AXS set it up with a pair or Saint Brakes or XT and we’re golden!!
    So

    Tony Beck on

  • Great thoughts. I’m still on the fence. I’ve run Sram XD for several years now, wife and a couple buds are running Shimano 12 speeds

    Sram XD:
    +Cheaper aftermarket front rings
    +Locking button on rear d
    +Up and down shifting ramps is a noticeably smoother transition.
    -GX is the lowest cost XD cassette.
    -Large cassette jump from 42 to 50 is noticeable. I won’t touch the 10-52 GX cassette. Marketing gimmick.

    Shimano XT:
    +46-51 tooth cassette is a big deal in the techy hills where I live. Great momentum or torque option.
    +Lower cost SLX and Deore cassettes in microspline
    +-The shifting is solid. Some might say clunky, others crisper. It’s just a little more distinct, solid, shift. Not good or bad IMHO.
    -Changing wheels the rear D is a slight pain. And yes forgetting to re-engage the clutch happens and stinks.
    -Front ring aftermarket is a little more expensive.

    RR Cross on

  • My new bike with XT arrives in 2 weeks and I’m looking forward to it.

    However when it comes to drive trains I’ve been predominately SRAM since making the shift 15 years ago (previously was strictly XT). At the time a new, clean shimano was tons smoother but as soon as it wore a bit or got dirty there was no comparison – sram was solid and consistent and the shimano would be all over the place. Used to drive me nuts

    Brakes are a different story, ventured away from shimano a few times and always regretted it. Been so burnt by avid/sram brakes im nowhere near ready to try them again. If a new bike comes with them I strip them immediately.

    I am not in agreement with most of the comments here though. I’ve had bikes with sx, nx, gx, x01 and xx1 drive trains. My current main bike is x01/xx1. Also have 2 bikes with deore 11 speed and 12 slx at the moment. Whilst I think deore and nx are pretty close there is no way I’d put slx in the same category as gx. Its somewhere in between nx and gx for me. The weak spots of gx are the chain (run x01 or xx1) and the casette (though x01 cassette is expensive). I do have a strong preference for sram shifters and cranks though.

    My hope is that I find the new XT is a touch better than the GX – would be a pretty great outcome.

    Marcus on

  • Had xt all my life .got new 12sp xtr clunky .gone too xx-1 neva go back .so smooth and easy to tune .xtr brakes the best tho .clutch on srsm the best so is the cable wheel .light years ahead .bye bye

    Lance Bunyan on

  • I’m still relatively new to mountain biking and have been shopping for a ride this winter. Would people agree with this hierarchy of 12-speed drivetrains in terms of features and performance?

    XX1/XXO>XTR>XT>GX>SLX>Deore>NX>SX

    This seems to be what I’m getting from reading here and other places around the Web.

    Jason on

  • In my opinion after trying both I would say the SLX is more comparable to the GX. Shimano feels smoother tho.

    Sean on

  • Yes, I agree with Dimitros on the shifters. I waited to go from XT 2×11 to a 1×12, but I waited for Shimano’s just for the shifter difference. Mine was the first set the guys in the Trek shop had ridden when they installed it. For the shifter especially, using both directions is important. I have small hands and bad thumbs (I’m over 50), so using the dual direction is a HUGE plus for me. I also like the shifting under stress. Makes me a lazier rider:) I don’t have to think about shifting before a big rock or incline.

    Will Sherman on

  • Well, the article is somewhat good, but! You’ve forgoten to mention shifter’s difference. Shimano XT (and XTR also) got MultiRelease function, except of ability to shift down in both directions push or pull, but in addition allowing you to switch 2 gears down in one click. Nothing like that in SRAM. And that Shimano shift feel under load is incomparable with SRAM’s cracking noise and “almost broken” shifter feel. So anytime, anyplace I would go with XT tranny.
    GX is more of SLX level, than XT.
    Even if I was presented full XX1 or XO1 transmission I would sell it writeaway and buy the XT one, that’s for sure!
    Best tranny combo in my opinion is XT shifter + XT rear mech + Garbaruk 10-52 cassete toped on with fanciest KMC golden(Titanium nitride coated) chain.

    Dimitros on

  • I’ve been running Sram since I changed to 12 spd. Currently running X01 Cassette & Dereailur, XX1 chain with GX shifter. My brother sprung for a full Shimano XTR system. The biggest problem I have is shifting under load. The Shimano system was amazing in this aspect!!!! So although I’m not interested in spending that much money (XTR), I’ll be moving to Shimano XT for sure.

    Jerry on

  • After years of running XT with not a single issue, I got a bike equipped with GX. Fine, at first. Loved it, actually. But then I somehow broke two teeth off of the cassette (I’m not that strong). It was warrantied, but only because I pushed it…they tried to say it was not installed properly, but it was. By a reputable shop. So, got it fixed. Then slippage. Got that fixed. Then more shifting issues. All that to say that when this drive train kicks the bucket I’ll be switching back to XT no doubt.

    Jason Williams on

  • I feel like people run sram because of their better high end wireless shifters but xt is better than gx. It is kind of like when you buy the cheapest model of something from a pro brand even though for cheaper you could have gotten something better from another brand.

    Stephen on

  • As for a reliability datapoint, in six months, on my new Cannondale Trigger 3, I’ve gone through two derailleurs. First with the stock NX, then with a replacement GX (jammed into spokes like another commenter,) just a couple of rides after replacing it.

    I’m done with SRAM, and I’ll never own a 12-speed. I’d like to go back to 1×10. I rarely use the lowest 3 gears anyway.

    11-speed, and beyond, is just subscription cycling. In the rest of my cycling life, at about ~1K miles/year off-road, I have never “shattered” a derailleur with tiny 2mm sticks. Got a massive 1’ branch (!) in my 2012 XT derailleur. Broke the hanger, but the derailleur survived. Not so with the 11-speed NX/GX. I’m not happy with these fragile, long-cage, debris vacuums.

    MattW on

  • I’ve had GX 12 speed on multiple bikes, but for my lasted full suspension I opted for XT. I’m super glad I did – the shifts are smoother, quieter, and the feel is like buttah. I love the double click up and down to grab more gears, and the ability to downshift by pushing in either the forward or backward direction. It’s really no contest in my opinion.

    Chris on

  • i’m running GX since they came on the rig and they’re great and i have no reason to change them out at all. but if i had to choose i’d go XT

    rappp on

  • After a number of years away from the sport (marriage, three kids, two jobs, one divorce), I’m just getting back and found this analysis very useful. One thing I am curious about: I have a 1996 Specialized FS Competition with Deore XT drive train in 3×8. Something tells me the technology has moved on, but just how much difference would a new bike make? Should I be loyal to my vintage, or exploring new options? I wonder if it is mostly about rider preference, or am I going to see a huge difference in changing over…

    Maurice Quinn on

  • Where I’m from almost everyone uses Shimano. Maybe that’s the reason why I ordered a bike with the GX… I’m curious. But if you google “shifting problems” you get way more hits for the GX than for the XT (regardless whether it concerns one or two chainings). Also Hyperglide Plus and the better shifter ergonomics of the XT sound interesting. After having read dozens of comparisons I came to the impression that the GX lies somewhere in between the SLX and XT but that’s definitely good enough for me and I’m really looking forward to finally receive my bike.

    MMartin on

  • Anecdotal but I can state that raceface 10/11spd NW chainrings will work with shimano 12spd as that’s what’s been on my bikes for the past year and change

    JM on

  • I run my brake levers pretty flat ~ 30 degrees below level. I noticed this allows me to run the shifter where I can trigger shift up with the index finger over the front of the grip. This is only useful in XC climbing mode where use of the brake lever & holding on tight are not necessary.

    Falllinemaniac on

  • My only reservation with the 1x front drive-train on a 12 speed is the significant cross-chaining that would occur, vs the opportunity with a 2x front drive-train, which would lessen the effect when I am hammering up a hill at 2mph.

    Eric on

  • Thanks for the info. I was not aware of the chain ring compatibility concerns.
    I do have a question.
    2019 was a bad year for derailleurs for me as I broke 3 derailleurs (stick, rocks, etc). In 2 of the instances, the derailleur got sucked into the spokes and made a mess of my wheel as well. They were different bikes with different setups. Does SRAM or Shimano seem to be less susceptible to getting the derailleur sucked into the wheel with a hit from a rock, etc. I have had it happen on both SRAM and Shimano, in the past, but my 4 bikes all have Shimano 1×11 right now. I am looking to upgrade to a 1×12 (my hubs can support a new freehub body) and wondering if one will perform better then the other in this aspect.
    Thanks
    Matt

    Matt Maupin on

  • You left out an important differentiator; twist-shifting. Twist-shift fans are left with one option — SRAM. As far as clean lines and simplicity go, twist shifting is very hard to beat.

    Steve on

  • Thanks for this article. I’m going to be rehabbing my ‘04 Specialized Epic and this is helpful. I have two questions. Are both brands equally versatile in your ability to mix/match components of different group set levels (within the same brand)? The other question might be a little more difficult to answer but it pertains to the “made in America” claims by SRAM. Does they actually fab the components here or do they just import and assemble them here? I’m not a zealot on this topic but would tend to buy domestic all things being equal. Thanks!

    Michael Wetherington on


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